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A single Franco-German intelligence service. Story of a failure

(B2) It was the students of Centrale, in Chatenay-Malabry, who had the scoop on this information, as Jacques Follorou recounts in the daily Le Monde. The former head of the technical division of the DGSE, Bernard Barbier, told them how the idea of ​​creating a large Franco-German intelligence service came about… and how it failed.

To build an intelligence service, there aren't many people...

“It is impossible to build a single European intelligence service with 28 countries which do not have the same resources or the same culture. The best, in relation to their number of inhabitants, are the Swedes. The Italians are bad. The Spaniards are a little better, but have no means. And the British, with 6 agents within GCHQ, are strong, but are they European? (…) There remain the Germans, who are solid partners.”

The Germans are strong

I worked a lot with them, both by transmitting our know-how but also by providing them with technical resources. German and French engineers work very well together. On the other hand, the British engineer with the French engineer, it's complicated.

The political level refuses the BND / DGSE merger

To be more effective, I told politicians in France that the BND should be merged [German Federal Intelligence Service] and the DGSE. It's the only way. That would make a service of 15 people. The NSA has 000 people, and the technical department of the DGSE alone has 60 agents. But French politicians never followed up. »

The 2010 attack on the European Union: an attack from Washington

The super techno-spy then tells how he unmasked the origin of the attack on the Elysée which turns out to be the same signature as that which struck Europe. "The head of computer security at the Elysée was a former member of my management at the DGSE, relates Mr. Barbier. He asked us for help. We saw that there was a “malware” which had an identical signature to the one we had identified during an attack against the European Community in 2010. Only the Americans and the Russians were able to carry out this first operation. In 2012, we had more means and technical power to work on metadata. I came to the conclusion that it could only be the United States.

Nicolas Gros Verheyde

Chief editor of the B2 site. Graduated in European law from the University of Paris I Pantheon Sorbonne and listener to the 65th session of the IHEDN (Institut des Hautes Etudes de la Défense Nationale. Journalist since 1989, founded B2 - Bruxelles2 in 2008. EU/NATO correspondent in Brussels for Sud-Ouest (previously West-France and France-Soir).

One thought on “A single Franco-German intelligence service. Story of a failure"

  • ionizer

    What shouldn't be read as nonsense… It's just a bunch of stereotypes… The bad Italians (but the most effective in the fight against terrorism, just for information), the English always difficult, they are the US by deduction misleading personal blablabla… It would have been better if someone had asked him to stop talking nonsense, to stop trying to show off, to give importance to what he said. Clearly not a loss for French intelligence, quite the contrary. Of course, nothing works when all we have about others are stereotypes… Poor students who will take his “enlightenment” at his word.

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